Is Red Clause LC A Mixed Payment LC?

The forum is dedicated to all who deals with LCs. Please share your experiences, problems and opinions with us. You are requested to be confined to LC related issues only. Let us together discover the beauty of Letter of Credit. Thank and regards – admin; besttradesolution.com
Post Reply
User avatar
gegeeee
Posts: 147
Joined: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:50 pm
First Name: Gega CITF, CDCS
Last Name: Topadze
Organization: Bank of Georgia
Filter: Two Plus Two =: 4
Location: Tbilisi, Georgia

Is Red Clause LC A Mixed Payment LC?

Post by gegeeee » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:24 pm

Guys,

If i have Red clasue LC, where advance pmt in within the original LC.

Should i structure LC available by mixed payment?

It is mandatory or can i just structure LC available by def pmt and in additional conditions say that advance is paid within the original lc at sight after presentation of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx document.

User avatar
picant
Posts: 2026
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:49 pm

Red Clause

Post by picant » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:45 pm

Hi Pal,

IMHO, it depends on the Red Clause facility. However a simple advance does not make the l/c available by mixed payment.
On receipt of prescribed documents you will advance the agreed sum, then on presentation of full documents for full amount you will avail, the l/c reimbursing the advance.
Other comments appreciated
Ciao

User avatar
gegeeee
Posts: 147
Joined: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:50 pm
First Name: Gega CITF, CDCS
Last Name: Topadze
Organization: Bank of Georgia
Filter: Two Plus Two =: 4
Location: Tbilisi, Georgia

Mixed PMT

Post by gegeeee » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:40 pm

Dear Picant,

what do you mean in word "simple advance" , in my case advance is within lc. beneficiary has to present certificate of beneficiay and after this i (Bank) pay advance being 20% of Total lc amount. 80% i pay after 90 from b/l date against complying presentation.

User avatar
picant
Posts: 2026
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:49 pm

Red Clause

Post by picant » Thu May 01, 2014 12:34 am

Hi Pal,l/c remain valid for full amount in the sec

i told you that all depends on the Red Clause wording in l/c. If the advance is made against a receipt and an undertaking to ship the goods within the l/c terms, issued by the beneficiary or an invoice for said amount etc.
In the first case is an advance, in the second is an advanced payment., The first case is a red claused l/c , the second is a mixed payment. In the first case the l/ amount will remain in full, in the second one only for the balance.
I dont know with which funds you will effec the advance, I think with issuing bank's fund.
Let me know, it is not easy to argue with you, without having documents on hands.
Other comments appreciated
Ciao

User avatar
gegeeee
Posts: 147
Joined: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:50 pm
First Name: Gega CITF, CDCS
Last Name: Topadze
Organization: Bank of Georgia
Filter: Two Plus Two =: 4
Location: Tbilisi, Georgia

Mixed PMT

Post by gegeeee » Thu May 01, 2014 12:12 pm

Dear Picant,

Thanks for your protmpt reply and attention.

Funds are made by issuing bank. I guess it will be mixed pmt.

Thanks ina advance.

User avatar
gegeeee
Posts: 147
Joined: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:50 pm
First Name: Gega CITF, CDCS
Last Name: Topadze
Organization: Bank of Georgia
Filter: Two Plus Two =: 4
Location: Tbilisi, Georgia

Mixed PMT

Post by gegeeee » Thu May 01, 2014 12:40 pm

Picant,

Actually i cant differ red clause Lc and Lc where advance is made within it. I thought if advance is made within LC with issuing banks funds it is a Red clause.

If you give me a little examples i ll be so much appreciated.

Thanks in advance

abrar
Posts: 984
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:52 am
First Name: Abrar
Last Name: Ahmed
Organization: Crown Agents
Filter: Two Plus Two =: 4

Mixed payment

Post by abrar » Thu May 01, 2014 5:25 pm

Best option would be to indicate that LC is available by deferred payment and mention the advance separately.

So :

Field 41A : Available with XXXXX Bank BY DEF PAYMENT

Field 42P : Deferred payment details ( 90 days b/l date)

Field 47A : 20% of LC value payable against beneficiary's "simple receipt" and 80% ppayable against documents detailed under filed 46A.

User avatar
gegeeee
Posts: 147
Joined: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:50 pm
First Name: Gega CITF, CDCS
Last Name: Topadze
Organization: Bank of Georgia
Filter: Two Plus Two =: 4
Location: Tbilisi, Georgia

Mixed PMT

Post by gegeeee » Thu May 01, 2014 7:08 pm

Thank you Abrar.

Post Reply