Insurance Certificate v.s. Risk of Endorsment

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Navi
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Insurance Certificate v.s. Risk of Endorsment

Post by Navi » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:40 pm

Hi everybody,

I'd like to discuss the negotiability of insurance certificates.

In theory, we know that insurance certificate not a negotiable document, but in practice, the l/c's often request
insurance certificate issued TO ORDER XXX and/or ENDORSED TO ORDER OF XXX and banks accept this.

As we know certificate is a document based on open cover/policy. We receive certificates with no details of terms and conditions.The document presented is generally printout copy with faxcimile signature, assured as beneficiary and endorsed by them. .

By requesting and accepting such a document, do the issuing banks and/or applicants run the risk of being not compensated for any possible damage during transport by the insurance company claiming that we are not the true beneficiary of the insurance and/or beneficiary already claimed and received from insurance company?

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Very difficult to say......

Post by picant » Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:26 pm

Hi Pal,

we have a meeting with am insurance broker, view completely different from UCP or ISBP:
If you remember at the time of ISBP 645 the paragraphs concerning insurance were modified after the publication of these ISBP.
I think we have three entities playing a role:
+Insurance contractors,
+insured or assured
+beneficiary,

the problem is, certainly, that the importer or the bank must have the possibility to be refunded when goods were deteriorated. This happens, IMHO, not because you are legitimated by a signature but by the documentation that you have to present in case of claim.
However, being a bank clerk not aware of insurance industry it is better to follow the UCP or ISBP and have an insurance document issued to its order or name , endorsed if showing another entity.
Probably local laws will rule this situation.
Other comments appreciated
Ciao

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