agent or carrier

jmitra · Post by **jmitra** » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:44 pm

Hi!

i need you support here. if the transport document shows;

as agent for the carrier: XYZ

signed by a person Mr. A

is it ok to consider XYZ as the carrier?

mando@vsnl.net · Post by **mando@vsnl.net** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:21 am

Yes it seem to be Ok !

As Agent of Named Carrrier,

Signature of Mr.A
As Agent

iLC · Post by **iLC** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:04 pm

seems ok to me as well unless there are some conflicting information on the transport document

silver · Post by **silver** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:36 am

Hi all

According to your bill, I'm sure XYZ is the carrier. But I wonder who is agent.
The BL must show the name of the agent who is acting for that carrier XYZ. (Art20i ..indicate the name signed by the carrier or A NAMED AGENT FOR ON BEHALF OF THE CARRIER"
Mr A is just a person on behalf of the agent.

Regards

shahriar · Post by **shahriar** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:27 pm

i really dont think that its necessary that to be an agent, someone has to own an company or something. i think Mr. complies with the UCP requirement

ybattia · Post by **ybattia** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:01 am

as long as there is a signature "Mr.A" and it was written "As Agent for the Carrier XYZ"
I think from my opinion, it would be okay, and the carrier would be XYZ and Agent is Mr.A or whoever party that signs under this.

As UCP and/or ISBP didn't mention that the agent has to be a company, so I assume it can be an individual as well. but afterall, if we ll go by the book, "it is not a discrepancy"

Thanks & up to ideas,

cristiand969 · Post by **cristiand969** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:56 pm

Maritime practice make reference to the only authorized party as an individual the master of the vessel who represents the interalia the vessel. And he carries a stamp on which it is written M/V XXXX and not Mr. Z master.
Frankly speaking I refrain from making such assumptions due to different law practices but I never seen a stamp of Mr.Z as an individual in maritime transportation. He is acting FOR or ON BEHALF of a legal entity whose name apparently is missing unless he signed on behalf of carrier.
We welcome other comments from real life of maritime laws and transportations.
It seems the carrier has signed as agent of himself and you already have ICC opinion on this matter.

agent or carrier

agent or carrier

Agent or Carrier

ok to me

What's the name of that agent?

who can be an agent

The agent doesn't have to be a company.

legal entity or individual