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transport by more than one track is partial shipment

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:43 pm
by berry
A funny question. ISBP says that transport by more than one track is partial shipment. But how to know how many tracks have been used? If there is more than two or four container, can we call it a partial shipment? For sea shipment, if there is more than one lash barge used which travels from port of discharge to place of final destination, can we call it partial shipment?

SAME SHIP CANNOT BE PARTIAL SHIPMENT

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:35 pm
by okeyxtra
The fact that multiple containers are in a particular shipment does not constitute partial shipment, as far as they are shipped in the same ship, and in the same voyage, and covered under the same Bill of Lading.
Partial Shipment is a situation whereby the goods are shipped in tranches, that is different shipment covered under different Bill of Lading. I am also aware that if more than one ship is conveing the consignment, there can not be the same Bill of Lading, and as such, we can conclude that partial shipment has taken place.

SAME SHIP CANNOT BE PARTIAL SHIPMENT

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:37 pm
by okeyxtra
The fact that multiple containers are in a particular shipment does not constitute partial shipment, as far as they are shipped in the same ship, and in the same voyage, and covered under the same Bill of Lading.
Partial Shipment is a situation whereby the goods are shipped in tranches, that is different shipment covered under different Bill of Lading. I am also aware that if more than one ship is conveing the consignment, there can not be the one Bill of Lading, and as such, we can conclude that partial shipment has taken place.

ICC opinions

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:18 am
by picant
Hi Pals,

hoping that these opinions stll exist:

-470/TA 235 dd march 09, 1999- Goods on different railcars, forming part of the same train, for the same voyage are not considered partial shipments, being the wagons part of the same mean of transport.

-470/GE 46 goods on different lorries, leaving the same moment for the same destination, have to be considered partial shipments.

other comments appreciated

Ciao

whats the decision?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:15 pm
by shahriar
interesting question indeed; to me. in my country, i have seen lorries that can carry two containers. not sure whether larger are there. so if shipments are made in four or five container, it will be carried on more than one lorry. but i dont think one can raise discrepancy on this point. its too analytical. :)

Well, good answer shahriar

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:07 pm
by cristiand969
I agree with shahriar, at least as far as EUROPE is concerned. One truck cannot carry more than 1 container either 20' or 40'. Shahriar, I don't think is too analitical, I don't see to have an insane carrier who release a document stating two containers loaded on the same truck as this would not be possible and TRUE because there is legislation in place for every country or even for a larger region that imposes a weight limit for transportation on roads. In my country the limit is max. 24 tonnes including TARA (container weight).