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B/L showing only Place of Receipt and Precarriage by, silent with Port of Loading and Vessel Name
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:49 pm
by kamijo69
Hi all,
I want to have your concern about this matter,
L/C asks for Original 3/3 full sets B/L, with field 44E: any port in China, 44F: Semarang, Indonesia
3/3 full sets of B/L presented with Precarriage-by box filled with vessel A, Place of receipt: Yansha, China
Vessel name/voyage and Port of Loading box is empty,
There's an onboard notation stating laden on board date XXXXXX with vessel name A, no statement about Port of Loading
Is this a discrepancy? Can I have a basis for statement with ISBP 745 E6.c(ii) and/or E6.e ?
Thank you
Re: B/L showing only Place of Receipt and Precarriage by, silent with Port of Loading and Vessel Name
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:27 pm
by picant
Hi Pal,
IMHO, port of loading is missing.
Other comments appreciated
Ciao
Re: B/L showing only Place of Receipt and Precarriage by, silent with Port of Loading and Vessel Name
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:45 am
by kamijo69
picant wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:27 pm
Hi Pal,
IMHO, port of loading is missing.
Other comments appreciated
Ciao
Hi there, yes the B/L showing PoL box is empty and no other info regarding PoL on B/L.
Only Place of receipt is filled: Yansha China
The nego bank argue:
''B/L shows only one vessel name and the place of receipt is filled with port name as per l/c (Yansha, China, L/C ask PoL any port in China). Please be noted the B/L is silent with regards vessel field and port of loading which means that goods are shipped in the vessel named in the B/L and from the port mentioned under place of receipt. since this complies with the UCP requirement, there is no need for a B/L to evidence onboard notation with PoL along with date and vessel name.
whatever shown at the bottom of the B/L is an additional information -> this 'refer to statement ''laden on board, date, Yansha China'', for me this is a onboard notation, not an additional info
Is this argument is clear and make sense?
Re: B/L showing only Place of Receipt and Precarriage by, silent with Port of Loading and Vessel Name
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:16 pm
by picant
Hi Pals,
in effect ISBP 745 E6 e, as indicated in the initial question, states that an on board notation
suffices to a correct completation of the b/l. Concerning the named vessel I'd prefer to see
the vessel name as part of the notation, but this is only my opinion.
Ciao
Re: B/L showing only Place of Receipt and Precarriage by, silent with Port of Loading and Vessel Name
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:17 am
by TaiOanlan
One can answer completely only by actually looking into the presented B/L. Since “Pre-carriage” box is filled and only place of receipt is filled, it’s possible that there is another vessel is involved based on the fact that B/L indicated “pre-carriage”. If nothing else, port of loading is missing which is a problem as far as I’m concerned.
Regards,